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  1. says:

    Heraclitus FRAGMENTS come here in the original with a facing page translation by Brooks Haxton that tries to do to the pre Socratic philosopher what no earlier translator has done, make him a New Ageish wisdom poet in tune with our modern needs It is a disastrous experiment, and I cannot recommend it either to students of Greek or readers interested in the pre Socratics.The problems here are legion For one, Haxton doesn t use Diels numbering scheme, favouring Bywater s dinosaur era numbers, which means this work is out of touch with most collections of Heraclitus The Greek typeface used is very idiosyncratic and not conformant to classical norms But the translation itself is horrid.A lot of what the reader is getting here simply isn t Heraclitus Instead of providing a footnote with his opinion on what the fragment may mean in context, as reputable scholars would do, Haxton simply adds content to the translation Unless he were to look at the translation notes in the back, the average reader would be unaware that much of what he was reading wasn t actual said by the philosopher, but is just one modern translator s opinion Take, for example, Haxton s rendition of the fragment Nyktipoloi, magoi, bakchoi, lenai, mustai , which is literally translated Night walkers, mages, bacchants, lenai, and the initiated , but which Haxton inexplicably expands to Nightwalker sic , magus, and their entourage, bacchants and mystics of the wine press, with stained faces, and damp wits One that really takes the cake is 89 Ex homine in tricennio potest avus haberi, which simply means A man could be a grandfather in thirty years Haxton somehow comes up with Look the baby born under the new moon under the old moon holds her grandchild in her arms.This translation is a crime If you are interested in Heraclitus thought, try getting a reputable scholarly translation Dennis Sweet s HERACLITUS Translation and Analysis University Press of America, 1995 is quite easily readable and entertaining Stay far away from Haxton s kookish work.


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    Philosopher Poet Prophet ProverbistHeraclitus is all rolled into one His fragments are tantalizing, hinting at a wisdom lost to us, but I am sure that he meant them to be fragmentary, so that all he does for the reader is a quick nod in the direction of a distant window, leaving the reader to make the journey, to peep out, and to make of the sight what he will In the sure knowledge that Heraclitus had pointed him there and whatever he sees there is worth interpreting Things keep their secrets Herclitus is often called a Wisdom Poet, sharing kinship with the authors of Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, and Job Such Wisdom Poetry specializes in a special sort of pessimism one that frees the reader from the shackles of a cherished belief Heraclitus does this repeatedly They raise their voices at stone idols as a man might argue with his doorpost, they have understood so little of the gods Like Buddha, Heraclitus is known to have given up his throne to seek wisdom He became the author of what is today often considered to the first philosophical treatise of the Western mind that tries to arrive at the truth through a discourse.However, the philosophy is nascent in these writings, being prophetic and poetic than a structured discourse, with ideas leading one into the other.These aphorisms tread lightly, avoiding being an elitist composition open only to the initiated Heraclitus makes himself mysterious and accessible at the same time it is no wonder that most philosophers after him refer to him with an awe reserved for a master who first teaches one to truly see the world anew.My favorite Yet let s not make rash guesses our most lucid thoughts


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    A MESSAGE FROM HERACLITUS Never twice, so hardly thrice, will you step into the cooling waters and find the stream the same Pass on with gladness, not looking back expecting permanence Sink, immerse yourself in the ever flux Swim, when you must, with the tide Do not fight what you cannot change the Changeless Everchanging 9th March,1985 THE BECOMING The mightiest rock is withering away A tiny mound growing to a famous hill Becoming and becoming shapes the world Becoming and becoming takes away And there s no knowing the whys and whys and wherefores of it all, The answers change and slip and slip away Nail the wind to your door Tie water in the tightest knot and still it will not stay And the weak grow strong and the strong it melts away Touch one with a feather and it crumbles Strike hard with a hammer and yet the other stays June, 1985.


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    HERACLITUS FragmentsHeraclitus flourished about 500 BC.He is the third of the Pre Socratic Philosophers known to us The first being Thales around 585 BC the second Pythagoras about 532 BC.Thales believed that the primordial element out of which everything was made, was water.Anaximenes thought the air was the fundamental element Empedocles suggested that in compromise, earth, air, fire and water where the four primitive elements.Heraclitus preferred fire.Heraclitus also believed in perpetual change or permanent flux You cannot step twice into the same river for fresh waters are ever flowing in upon you Just as the river where I step is not the same, and is, so I am as I am not Another of his doctrines was the mingling of opposites There would be no unity if there were not opposites to combine Some quotes from the fragments The word proves those first hearing it As numb to understandingAs the ones not heard.Yet all things follow from the Word For wisdom, listen not to me but the Word, And know that all is one If learning were a path of wisdom, Those most learned about myth would not believe, with Hesiod,That Pallas in her wisdom gloats over the noise of battle Pythagoras may well have been the deepest in his learning of all men And still, he claimed to recollect details of former lives, Being in one a cucumber and one time a sardine The mind of Thales saw in forethought Precisely as in heaven the eclipse Many who have learned from Hesiod the countless names of Gods and monsters, Never understand that night and day are one War, father of all things, and king, Names a few to serve as gods, and of the rest makes these men slaves, those free As for the Ephesians, I would have them, youths, elders and all those between, go hang themselves, leaving the city in the abler hands of children.With the banishment of Hermodoros they say, No man should be worthier than average Thus my fellow citizens declare, whoever would seek excellence can find it elsewhereamong others Heraclitus himself for all his belief in change allowed something everlasting In his Philosophy, the ever living fire never dies And its permanence is instead that of a process than that of substance The doctrine of the perpetual flux, as taught by Heraclitus, is painful, but science can do nothing to refute it.This little book of FRAGMENTS is interesting as a new translation, but the fragments are few and difficult to connect It may leave the reader wishing for a complete picture of the Philosopher.


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    Remarkable coherent thoughts, musings and ramblings for something written so long ago Heraclitus is one of those guys who sees everything in everything else, i.e old is young, young is old because its all relative, and so on Which can get a little repetitive at times, but the depth of those thoughts is not lost nevertheless.And every once in a while, a gem pops out Like a person never stepping in the same river twice, or that dogs too bark at things they don t understand, or mixtures tend to separate if they don t stay in motion these are timeless thoughts I don t believe that these kind of words will ever stop speaking to humanity And which is why, as one of the earliest efforts to put those musings to paper, high five to you signore Heraclitus.


  6. says:

    It s so funny when he bashes on Homer the highlight of the book in my onion


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    Heraklit is the prototype of a dark, cranky and cynical philosopher which is later embodied by Schopenhauer and Taleb which is a type that speaks to me His fragments are so profound on a melancholic, misanthropic level that I can t help to rate it five stars.


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    Enlightening and inspirational, one of few ancient philosophers who truly spoke wisdom For Heraclitus, wisdom, much like fire, is the very essence of the cosmos.The early Greek philosophers sought the substance which the universe was fashioned Thales, embraced water Anaximenes, tackled air, Anaximander, dived into a combination of hot and cold Empedocles developed the stuff to four indestructible elemental principles, while Anaxagoras is said to have offered innumerable generative seeds composing the nature of things The Atomists abstracted the seeds further, proposing multiple particles moving in void The Pythagoreans found the truth of the world lies in numbers and Parmenides, introduced his theory of the cosmos.Heraclitus assumed a different niche More psychological, he posited no basic substance, nor did he abstract the world of the senses into numbers, atoms or assertions about Being as a whole Instead he said, nothing is stable all is in flux Whatever you say about anything, its opposite is equally true Scholarship calls fragments, as if to say the work is incomplete, only shards of a lost whole But the scholarship misses the fact that the style is the message It favors responses in metaphors, images, sharp pointed insights that stir the mind to awakened observation and deepened reflection as stated by Hillman.


  9. says:

    Interesting, but not enlightening Good points about change, skepticism, open mindedness, rising above petty worldliness and not being too deferential to authority are embedded in this book However, I feel these points are only to be found there because the reader is forced to find some content to justify the worth of these fragments.Many of these ideas will already be known or familiar in developed forms to any reasonably versed reader of those philosophers and writers who followed Heraclitus This is not a criticism of Heraclitus, of an acknowledgement of how significant he was to his ancient audience, but does raise questions about his significance to the modern reader, who has access to those who came after, and expressed these ideas fully.Read only if you are reading for some other reason than his historical importance If you are reading for that other reason, I hope you find what you re looking for within yourself, because that is where this text will send you anyway So you might as well not read these fragments


  10. says:

    Heraclitus the glory of Hera , contemporary of Buddha, Lao Tzu and Confucius, was one of the first philosophers of Ancient Greece He was the one who said one can t step into the same river twice These fragments, mostly in Greek but a few times in Latin which are printed on the left side page alongside the English of the right side page , once were parts of a very often quoted book On Nature , which since has gone missing But just from the few bits that are here can be gained very deep quotes which have had a great influence beyong Ancient Greek and Rome.It s a quick read, but one can remain chewing on the tiniest bits for a long time The book can be a good point to start reading Greek philosophy, it s not exhausting and is easily re readable So I loved it and recommend it.



Fragments Of Wisdom From The Ancient WorldIn The Sixth Century Bc Twenty Five Hundred Years Before Einstein Heraclitus Of Ephesus Declared That Energy Is The Essence Of Matter, That Everything Becomes Energy In Flux, In Relativity His Great Book, On Nature, The World S First Coherent Philosophical Treatise And Touchstone For Plato, Aristotle, And Marcus Aurelius, Has Long Been Lost To History But Its Surviving Fragments Have For Thousands Of Years Tantalized Our Greatest Thinkers, From Montaigne To Nietzsche, Heidegger To Jung Now, Acclaimed Poet Brooks Haxton Presents A Powerful Free Verse Translation Of All Surviving Fragments Of The Teachings Of Heraclitus, With The Ancient Greek Originals Beautifully Reproduced En FaceFor Than Seventy Years, Penguin Has Been The Leading Publisher Of Classic Literature In The English Speaking World With Than , Titles, Penguin Classics Represents A Global Bookshelf Of The Best Works Throughout History And Across Genres And Disciplines Readers Trust The Series To Provide Authoritative Texts Enhanced By Introductions And Notes By Distinguished Scholars And Contemporary Authors, As Well As Up To Date Translations By Award Winning Translators

  • Paperback
  • 97 pages
  • Περί Φύσεως
  • Heraclitus
  • English
  • 09 August 2019
  • 9780142437650

About the Author: Heraclitus

Heraclitus of Ephesus Greek ,c.535 c.475 BCE was a pre Socratic Greek philosopher, a native of the Greek city Ephesus, Ionia, on the coast of Asia Minor He was of distinguished parentage Little is known about his early life and education, but he regarded himself as self taught and a pioneer of wisdom From the lonely life he led, and still from the apparently